Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

The link between Mind and Social / Environmental-Issues.

The fast-paced, consumerist lifestyle of Industrial Society is causing exponential rise in psychological problems besides destroying the environment. All issues are interlinked. Our Minds cannot be peaceful when attention-spans are down to nanoseconds, microseconds and milliseconds. Our Minds cannot be peaceful if we destroy Nature.

Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

Subject : In a fast society slow emotions become extinct.
Subject : A thinking mind cannot feel.
Subject : Scientific/ Industrial/ Financial thinking destroys the planet.
Subject : Environment can never be saved as long as cities exist.

Emotion is what we experience during gaps in our thinking.

If there are no gaps there is no emotion.

Today people are thinking all the time and are mistaking thought (words/ language) for emotion.

When society switches-over from physical work (agriculture) to mental work (scientific/ industrial/ financial/ fast visuals/ fast words ) the speed of thinking keeps on accelerating and the gaps between thinking go on decreasing.

There comes a time when there are almost no gaps.

People become incapable of experiencing/ tolerating gaps.

Emotion ends.

Man becomes machine.

A society that speeds up mentally experiences every mental slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety.

A ( travelling )society that speeds up physically experiences every physical slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety.

A society that entertains itself daily experiences every non-entertaining moment as Depression / Anxiety.





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I'm new to LJ, and just recently began learning about self sufficient living, permacultre etc. I think it's a great thing to find people with the same interests, especially in a much needed one such as this.



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Aaron here with a few words about the chicken. They are a lightweight easily portable source of many benefits.
I can hardly state enough the importance (in my mind) of chickens to the survival of a tribe. COnsider the benefits of having a few of these amazing birds... One: Eggs emmmmm omelets are good! Two: Meat, sorry vegans I love to eat these wonderful birds, especially with tabasco, and don't forget, you can boil the bones for soup! very healthy. Then there is the feathers, great for beds and pillows. Four: The droppings are an excellent source of nitrogen, for both fertilizer and black powder. Let me know if I have left anything out, (I'm sure I did) ......
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Howdy! thoughts, and relfections...

Well, here I am in the very active community about self sufficient community planning, and how fortunate, because I have been working on this for some time. So here are some thoughts.
One, complete disconnection does not benefit the society in question (lets call us the tribe, because I like that word). For instance, the thousands of work hours that can be saved by buying a role of copper wire vs. mining extracting refining and forging it yourself cannot be understated same with textiles, electronics etc. instead, the tribe should focus on a certain degree of sustainability, and independence. The tribe would almost certainly use computers, electronics for hydroponic gardening (my specialty) and even such simple things as light, and light machining. a tribe of around 25 people for instance is quite sustainable if all of the members are multi skilled and fairly healthy. Problems arise in the area of critical medical, care of the elderly, and the biggest, peoples desire for endless recreation. I think a tribal council, is a fair way of governing, and worked for the native americans in the past, as long as the tribe is not met with an overwhelming superior force. So for specifics, tribe should be: Near a source of fresh water with a head drop of at least 100 feet and an average flow of a few million gals a year, wind power to augment the hydro electric, the hills in the area should be terraced, a well stocked machine shop, and chemistry lab, a wood shop, fabrication shop, an abundant supply of stores, the homes and shops should all be connected via underground tunnels, a large community area, and a hospital of sorts. Some of the problems that might be run into are restriction of materials by government, and raising the working capitol/securing the initial effort. In my mind the ideal is a space based community, that exists in a spaceship made of mostly organic materials so that it can grow as each generation farms the resources of its construction. Such a station would resemble a large cylinder (about 100 yards across) with about 20 feet deep water "spun" against the walls and islands or boats that the people inside live on, the water would provide ample protection from solar radiation and thermal mass, light would come in from huge parabolic mirrors of mylar focused through a lens at one the caps of the cylinder. But this is sci fi academics, for now, a tribe or two would be a great study for that eventual community, certainly the more we understand about small group dynamics the better.
Well, that's it for now I think.

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(I didn't see a rule prohibiting community promotion, and I believe this new community might be of interest to the members/watchers here. If this post is unwelcome, I apologize.)

The recent events in the Gulf Coast and Florida, not to mention the possible influenza pandemic and the ongoing threats from weather and other natural disasters, in addition to the (I hope) remote possibility of man-made disasters, has taught me one clear lesson:

Local communities, families, and individuals need to be prepared to address crises on their own, without significant government help.

To that end, there is a new LJ community called making_a_plan.

The idea is that this community will be a place for sane LJers can talk about resources and ideas for disaster preparedness at the local and individual level. Lists for kits, links to resources, library ideas, phone trees, local community plans, etc., are all appropriate for this community. Arguments about guns, politics, who sucks, and who doesn't, are not appropriate. It will be a place to exchange ideas and information, to collaborate on ways to keep ourselves, our loved ones, and our communities safe and healthy in the event of a disaster.

Thanks for your time, and I hope to see you there.
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Hi everybody!

(Hi, Dr. Nick!)

No, I don't believe in the apocalypse. I don't doubt that civilization will collapse, but I don't think it would be nearly as spectacular an event as depicted in Category 7: The End of the World, a made-for-TV movie about--well, the end of the world. I think the premise goes: Man-made climate changes have caused massive Cat 7 storms all over the world (except Africa, which doesn't count as a continent according to the viewing public, and that huge swath of land called Siberia) and everybody's running for their lives.

I have a few problems with this (and don't worry, not one of them has to do with global warming): First off, storms of that nature are far more devestating to wildlife than they are to people. The human destruction *looks* more impressive, but let's face it, deer don't have evacuation plans, grizzly bears aren't stockpiling supplies, and lions don't have contingency plans in case things go wrong. Not to mention plants--imagine the destruction if a redwood forest was toppled.

Secondly, we're assuming that a bunch of people survive, because otherwise there wouldn't be much of a point in the movie. WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL THE BODIES, DAMN IT? You ever notice that? Movies never depict bodies. Maybe one.

But here's the real point: the collapse of civilization will not bring out the best in people, whatever the TV producers may think. People will fall to killing people who look different. It will be strong vs. weak, the armed vs. unarmed. There will be a clash in ideologies as sane, rational people like us go head to head against insane, irrational people like skinheads. In such situations, alas, sanity always loses, mostly because sanity has no appeal in emotionally trying times. And that will be the end of civilization.

So, it's up to sane people like us to eliminate what bigotry and ignorance we can now, while we still have time. Otherwise we're screwed. More than we already are.

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1) What would I do if civilization collapsed: Run away. Far away. And never come back. Logic is that being alone in the boonies is a hell of a lot safer than being stuck in a city when law and order has collapsed, especially if there are men who bench press your weight running amok.

2) What would I do to guarantee a food supply: Pack lots of granola bars. Filch a book on edible plants from the library. Filch seeds from the gardening store. Go south and west, hope that the granola bars and edible plants hold me until I get a garden growing, or convince the Amish to let me move in.

3) What preparations have I made/will I make: None, and none. I figure that if the end of the world is going to happen as fast as all that, we're all screwed anyway. In the meantime the long slow death of society will make for interesting times.

4) Research? No. God has a sense of humor when it comes to fucking people over--the apocalypse isn't going to be in any form that we can forsee, so what's the point? I know how to kill things, and I'm a fast learner when it comes to making things grow/harvesting thigs, so while it's not going to be pleasant, I have a fair bag of tricks up my sleeve. God's not the only one who can pull a fast one, hehe.

City living

So it seems like this community is all about farming and gardens and stuff like that, which is all very well and good, unless you happen to live in a giant apartment building in the middle of a city. As in, cross-hair-dead-center. But there's a way city-dwellers can contribute, believe it or not, to the development of sustainable agriculture and organic farming. The latter will make a far bigger impact on this part of the world than the former. And no, it doesn't involve visiting your out-of-the-way local farmer's market every weekend.

Very simply, you give a "company" (company, in the sense that they are neither farmers nor sellers nor delivery people) somewhere around $600 in the beginning of May, and every week or two, for five or six months, you get a crate of just-picked veggies fresh off the farm, delivered to your door. Well, maybe not your door--these companies have drop-off points. Some even do eggs. And odds are you never know what you're going to get until you open the box.

These farms are local, and most of them are organic. The eggs are probably from cage-free hens. That sort of thing. Suffice it to say that the amount of money spent is works out to the system being less expensive than shopping at Whole Foods.

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